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(1147) Are Knockoffs Worth the Money?


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  1. I enjoy picking locks. And am pretty good at it. I wish there were someone like you around when i was just learning. You really take the time to explain in full detail. Some might say more than necessary.

    Don’t stop though . For ppl just starting out those details will make all the difference. Keep up the good work.

  2. Hey Bill. Thanks for the mention in the video. I have been watching your channel for a while now and love the content. You have sparked an interest I never knew I had before. Just getting my own kit together and appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Keep up the great work !

    1. +Alien Ninja – Why does the intro matter to Patreon subs? They are a little more elaborate than other intros, but this one (and probably most or all) is barely 15 seconds… I’ve seen intros on other peoples videos out beyond 1 minute.

  3. I've got even cheaper knockoffs ;D. These locks are usually not really intended to lock something, even they can do it in light applications, but are used for engraving (e.g. love locks) :). That the shackle is not hardened on these locks was to be highly expected ;). Anyway fun to watch ;).

  4. Somehow I have the impression those locks with colored bodies are mostly for symbolic locking of friendship on a bridge. So the cheaper ones are better because thry have a larger area for engraving names. Everything else doesn't matter.

  5. Trying to figure out to word this, what's the probability someone will pick this type of lock vs brute force entry like bolt cutters? I guess what I'm curious about is picking something we need to worry about? I did notice you did a hardness test which is kind of conclusive. I'm not sure if there's any empirical data you can share with us out there or not. But you know how the saying goes locks only keep an honest man honest.

    1. He said he got the locks from a person he knows in Miami FL, who “got them from overseas”. There is no indication of where (country) they were manufactured but they were not made in US and likely are not sold in the US, at least in the major stores.

      Misrepresenting them as hardened when they are not might disqualify them from being imported to some countries like say Germany or US for example, but some countries may not care about such things.

      Misrepresenting them as hardened might (or might not) be illegal in the country of manufacture, but they might get away with it due to bribery/corruption of government officials.

      Or, it could be a language thing… where they are made, “Hardened” (or the translation of it) may not mean exactly the same as it does in say the US, or it could have multiple meanings. It could mean some other type of process like plating that adds a coating which is harder than the material underneath (pure speculation on my part). That might make it legal to manufacture but would probably not effect how some other countries allow or disallow its import.

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