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(108) Review: ISEO R6 and R11 Range Bump Keys

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  1. haha this is the second video ive seen of yours and the second time uve ended saying dont get them and buy beer instead, i like ur style, i have a R6, i wont be getting the bump key then lol

  2. In this security context, you're looking at "tools, time, and talent" — how much of each is required to bypass the locking system. Bump keys score low on all three factors and are thus, potentially, a greater threat.

    The other factor in the (legitimate) hype is that bumping has been known in the locksmith trade for decades… and manufacturers are just now attempting to mitigate it. And they are motivated by the lock sport community's publicizing of bumping. Win-win for us all, I say.

  3. Bumping employs the same basic principle as pick guns — slap the drivers up and hope to get lucky. Nasty keyways can mitigate pick guns in significant part. That's not a concern in the US, however, where we don't bother with such things 🙁

    The scary thing about bumping (when it works) is that anyone with a key that fits the lock and a couple files can make a bump key… and they're easy to use. Pick guns are expensive, harder to get, and take more finesse.

  4. Interestingly, the findings indicated that higher-quality, high-tolerance locks were _more_ susceptible to bumping than the loosey-goosey crapola locks. And security pins make little difference.

    Bottom line — unless it has some fancy new features, it's almost a certainty that your Iseo and Mul-T-Locks can be bumped open… perhaps just not with those expensive novelty keys.

  5. If you get bored, there's a great video on lock forensics by Datagram (Google "datagram youtube forensics" — first result). Among other things, he shows microscopic views of what bumping does to the pins. Pretty shocking. The forces involved are quite high. Don't bump locks you care about. 🙂

    All this said, a group of guys in Holland (I think) did bump testing on 60-odd quality euro locks — all but like 2-3 were eventually bumped open.

  6. If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. So where's Bill hide his beer? I asked this again for what seemed like at least the 2nd time today… Again no response,oh well! Cant drink em all EH?

  7. That's a shame mate, you'd think you'd luck out on at least a couple! Bumping anything with spool pins has a certain knack to it though. Need to get the timing exactly right… I've done it, but it's very hit and miss. Much more reliable just to pick the fuckers. Iseo came out with a new one (R50) fairly recently, looks like a challenging pick.

  8. Bumping is REALLY hard on locks.

    Sad that such expensive keys/tools are total fails.

    And, Bill, you're not stupid, but you probably are a little crazy 🙂

  9. I'm a member with a UK based locksport forum, i don't post much there mainly because we never see any of the locking systems they use and quite frankly, it makes my head ache trying to figure out what they are doing. Your right, they are way ahead.

  10. Mick, if they WORKED I'd gladly buy a code machine. Since they don't, I'm gonna invest in beer or something else that I can actually use and enjoy.

    The UK locksport and locksmith supply companies are light years ahead of anything here in the U.S. The sport there is much more mature. Here in the U.S. there are only a few really good companies and they don't deal in anything experimental or leading edge – that's why I go to UK companies. They DO have a LOT of good stuff, honest.

  11. Great Info to know, i have always wondered about the bump keys they sell. You hardly ever see anyone on YT using them, not that i look for them much to be honest.
    You should maybe invest in a code machine to cut your own keys, got to be cheaper than buying from overseas, the exchange rate to British pound is horrible.

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