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(376) Box-o-Locks from Bill Croft (Thank You!)


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  1. Probably best to Sharpie *and* tape over mailing addresses on any future shipping containers, as this unintentionally reveals where Bill (I won't say which one) resides.

  2. I'll tell you this is one tuff lock, first off it's got the biggest key I have ever seen and then such a narrow keyway makes it hard to get a pick in… I have tried a couple of times and now know I need to make a pick that can get all the way to the back pin… let me know if you have any ideas on it… Thanks Rich

  3. It means the lock has all the same key pins with no cuts, so they are all at the highest setting. Zero bitted means all the cuts are at the zero level. A locksmith can take that lock, open it up, insert new pins to fit an existing key, and reassemble the lock (hammering those brass pins into place permanently). I had never SEEN a unbitted Yale padlock and didn't realize what it was. Oh well…

  4. Bill, that's probably for the best. The last time I had a briefcase full of cash and supermodels on hand, I woke up in a cheap Vegas motel broke, alone, with a terrible nose bleed, and no recollection of the entire week before…

  5. Richard, it IS a really tough lock. Too bad ML doesn't put this level of security in ALL their products! I only had a short time to play with the M19 before leaving for an overseas trip, but had absolutely NO luck opening it. I'm not sure if they are all that tough, but Bill Croft's certainly is resistant to picking.

  6. That was great! Who would have known it had no bitting, and that master is huge, didn't know they made a 19. Was that a Benchmade knife, I didn't catch the model. I love knives, and Benchmade. I also have a sharpening business, If you ever need a new edge send it on up for sharpening on the house my friend!!

  7. Yea, they really did something right with that one. They stopped production in 2001 or 2003 because they only sold 9500 units for the past 2 years. It is a shame that they didnt bring some of its features to their other locks.

  8. Pink, all right! BTW, I was getting ready to send you a briefcase full of cash and a couple of supermodels that I had lying around, but you can forgeddaboutit now…

  9. Chris, as I understand it the Model 19s are pretty rare and worth pretty significant money – even with no key. Why not list it on eBay and rake in some cash?

  10. E, I should talk to you more… I broke 3 shims trying to beat that M19. I agree it is one of the most secure as well – the core is "dead" once you slip your pick along the warding and disturb the pins. The warding is sharply angled so you can't slip a 0.015" pick past it. It is a TOUGH lock – too bad ML doesn't make ALL their locks like this one!

  11. Kudos on your choice of knife with the Griptillian. A full size 550 plain edge has been my EDC for years now. They make those with pink scales by the way…

  12. The master 19 is the biggest most secure padlock they have ever made. The pins sit on on warding and the locking bars are attached? right to the cylinder as they dead lock and cannot be shimmed or bypassed.

    The yales come like that from the factory when they are not pinned there. The resistance you felt is just a tight fit. If you pull them out you can slide the cover up and see the cylinder. The bible should either be capped or have strip cover over it.

  13. I have one of those HUGE Master locks. The only difference is mine had a chain on it. Unfortunately the key was lost to it. I finally found it a few days ago and wanted to send it to you for your picking pleasure.
    I also have a Yale with the key that looks similar to the one you just picked but the size of the Master #19. One interesting feature about the lock is shackle covers the top of the lock so that you can't put shims inside of it. Very cool lock.

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